Individualism vs. Collectivism, a la Jean Paul Zodeaux

I have been a member of various forums with this gentleman, and must say that he is one of the finer minds I have found.  Reading him reminds me of Thoreau (and may be an inspiration for his e-name).

As we all join Thomas in this new collective venture, perhaps it is worth discussing what – in my view – is perhaps one of the most insidious and pervasive conspiracies to date…the conspiracy of collectivism.

What is collectivism?  In its simplest terms, collectivism is the belief that the whole is greater than the sum of its individual parts. In these simplest of terms, one can find merit in the belief.  However, much more than this, the collectivist advocates group rights as taking a supremacy over individual rights, and herein lies the rub.

When it comes to rights, we are necessarily in the realm of law.  Scientifically speaking, all law is simple, true, universal, and absolute.  When rights are understood under this principle of law, then rights are simple, true, universal, and absolute.  Yet, for the collectivist, in order to make their ideal of group rights having a supremacy over individual rights,  the first order of the day is to separate the “laws of science” from the “laws of man”.  Where one set of laws is non-arbitrary and practical, the other set of laws – the “laws of man” – are arbitrary and capricious.

Today, the indoctrination programs employed to convince people that the “laws of man” are not the same as the “laws of science” are legion.  Students are taught that “Sociologist Donald Black say’s that law is governmental social control”, and then expected to answer this way on a test to confirm that they have been fully indoctrinated.  Those who are not confirmed as fully indoctrinated will find it difficult to find employment within the corporatist world, which is a monstrous collective of monstrous collectives.

The individual in today’s societies is reviled and vilified as being akin to the anarchistic loners such as “The Unabomber” or Tim McVeigh, and any assertions of individuality is ridiculed while pejorative after pejorative is heaped upon that individual by members of a collective certain in their actions that individuals on their own cannot survive heavy attacks.

Under the oppressive weight of collectives, individuals face an uphill battle, and alone they are often overwhelmed.  It becomes necessary for individuals to find like minded allies and form their own collectives and avoid the irony that comes with such an allegiance.

I am a proud member of this new venture in internet communication because I recognize the fierce individualism of its creator.  I was invited to join this forum by yet another fierce individual and recognize other new members who indeed celebrate their own individualism.

It is my sincerest hope that this allegiance of individuals becomes a force against the insidious conspiracy of collectivism, and stands tall as a shining example of the power, and undeniable potential of the individual.


Of course, this does seem to need reconciling with my own spiritual views.  But that is why we are here:  to sort through all this stuff.  I just have a LOT of work left to do.

But I do believe that we, as humanity, ARE a collective.  However, individual rights MUST be observed in primacy.  From there, it should be the role of the individual to ensure a collective health (for their own benefit).  If not, then social order will marginalize this person…

…putting us right back at where JPZ intimates.


One Response to “Individualism vs. Collectivism, a la Jean Paul Zodeaux”

  1. For example it has been argued that the people are less likely to violate the law if they believe that the legal system is likely to punish them if they actually violated the law and not punish them if they did not violate the law. By contrast if the legal system is arbitrary then an individual has no incentive to actually follow the law..People who argue that individual rights are more important than social control are called individual rights advocates .

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